Changes between Version 6 and Version 7 of GEC16Agenda/IMDesignTopics


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    99== Description ==
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    11 This I&M session will focus on the key issues of interest to both the GIMI and GEMINI projects, as they continue to work towards a comprehensive set of I&M tools for GENI experimenters and for infrastructure measurement. In particular, we will consider the services and functions that can be used by both the GIMI and GEMINI projects.[[BR]]
     11This I&M session will focus on three key issues of interest to both the GIMI and GEMINI projects, as they continue to work towards a comprehensive set of I&M tools for GENI experimenters and for infrastructure measurement.  [[BR]]
    1212
    13 We will form teams that can resolve these issues.  [[BR]]
     13We will first review the overall goal to move towards a "unified experiment environment". [[BR]]
     14
     15Then, we will discuss these topics:
     16 * Support for GIMI and GEMINI I&M tools on both ExoGENI and InstaGENI racks
     17 * Use of an instrumentize script, driven by rspec extension, to configure/init all I&M tools
     18 * Options for further measurement data analysis and presentation
     19
     20For each topic, we will have a review of current practice, and a discussion of how to move forward. [[BR]]
     21
     22Finally, we will form teams for continued discussion.  [[BR]]
    1423
    1524Finally, we will discuss the I&M goals for the next 4 months, particularly how to best support experimenters and those doing infrastructure measurement. [[BR]]
     
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    28 == 2) Meeting Introduction ==
     37== 2) Towards a Unified Experiment Environemnt ==
    29388:35am  [[BR]]
    30 Harry Mussman  (GENI Project Office)  [[BR]]
     39Marshall Brinn  (GENI Project Office)  [[BR]]
     4010min
    3141
    32 
    33 Today’s discussion topics:
    34 
    35 
    36 Goals and Approach
    37  * Work towards a "unified experiment environment".
    38  * Help groups prepare responses to Sol 4
    39 
    40 Current overall experiment configuration 
    41 
    42 Summary of current experiment steps
    43 
    44 Possible next steps towards a “unified experiment environment”.
    45 
    46 Today’s discussion topics:
    47  * Support GIMI and GEMINI I&M tools on both ExoGENI and InstaGENI racks
    48  * Use instrumentize script, driven by rspec extension, to configure/init I&M tools
    49  * Options for further measurement data analysis and presentation
    50 
     42What does it mean to move towards a "unified experiment environment"?  [[BR]]
    5143
    5244
    5345== 3) Support GIMI and GEMINI I&M tools on both ExoGENI and InstaGENI racks ==
    54 8:40am
     468:45am
    5547
    56 === Overview ===
     48=== Introduction ===
    5749Harry Mussman  [[BR]]
    58 2min
    5950
    60 Step 3:  Obtain slice, install software
    61  * Now:  GIMI using ExoGENI, Flukes;  loads images/pkgs
    62  * Now:  GEMINI using InstaGENI, FLACK;  loads images/pkgs
    6351
    64 Next:  be able to use GEMINI on ExoGENI, and GIMI on InstaGENI
    65 
    66 Suggest:  set goal to begin testing all combinations starting 5/1; good support by GEC17
     52GENI experiment management Step 3:  Obtain slice, install software
     53 * Now:  GIMI loaded (and tested) on ExoGENI
     54 * Now:  GEMINI loaded (and tested) on InstaGENI, FLACK
     55 * Next:  be able to use GEMINI on ExoGENI, and GIMI on InstaGENI
     56 * Suggest:  set goal to begin testing all combinations starting 5/1; good support by GEC17
    6757
    6858=== Lessons learned from using GIMI tools on ExoGENI racks ===
    6959Cong Wang  [[BR]]
    70 8min
     605min
    7161
    72 4 slides:  current config;  current capabilities and issues;  future possibilities
     623 slides:  current config;  key techniques;  known challenges [[BR]]
    7363
    7464=== Lessons learned from using GEMINI tools on InstaGENI racks ===
    7565Hussam Nasir  [[BR]]
    76 8min
     665min
    7767
    78 4 slides:  current config;  current capabilities and issues;  future possibilities
     683 slides:  current config;  key techniques;  known challenges [[BR]]
    7969
    8070=== Discussion ===
     
    8272Cong Wang;  Hussam Nasir;  (Ilia Baldine);  (Rob Ricci);  Louisa Nevers;  Jeanne Ohren
    8373
     74How do we move towards using GEMINI on ExoGENI, and GIMI on InstaGENI?  [[BR]]
     75
    8476Discuss: 
     77 * Suggested approaches
     78 * Key techniques
     79 * Likely challenges
    8580 * Goal to begin testing all combinations starting 5/1; good support by GEC17
    86  * Likely roadblocks
    87  * Suggested approaches
     81
    8882
    8983Any topics, suggestions and issues suggested AHEAD OF TIME by members of roundtable?
    9084
    91 At the end:  any conclusions, list of issues, team to continue discussion]
     85At the end: 
     86 * List of conclusions
     87 * List of issues
     88 * Team to continue discussion
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    94 
    95 == 4) Use instrumentize script, driven by rspec extension, to configure/init I&M tools ==
    96 9:15am
     91== 4) Use of instrumentize script, driven by rspec extension, to configure/init I&M tools ==
     929:10am
    9793
    9894=== Overview ===
    9995Harry Mussman  [[BR]]
    100 2min
    10196
    102 Step 4:  Configure/init I&M and exp app
     97
     98GENI experiment management Step 4:  Configure/init I&M and exp app
    10399 * Now:  GIMI using post boot scripts, OMF
    104100 * Now:  GEMINI using instrumentize script, choices based on rspec extension; also used to add GN
    105 
    106 Next:  move towards common approach, to better unify experiment environment
    107 
    108 Suggest:  both move towards script, driven by rspec ext; discuss at I&M session
     101 * Next:  move towards common approach, to better unify experiment environment
     102 * Suggest:  both move towards script, driven by rspec ext; discuss at I&M session
    109103
    110104=== Current GIMI use of post boot scripts, OMF, to configure/inti services ===
     
    1121065min
    113107
    114 2 slides:  current config;  current capabilities and issues;  future possibilities
     1083 slides:  key techniques;  known challenges [[BR]]
    115109
    116110=== Current GEMINI use of instrumentize script, to configure/init services ===
     
    1181125min
    119113
    120 2 slides:  current config;  current capabilities and issues;  future possibilities
     1143 slides:  key techniques;  known challenges [[BR]]
    121115
    122116=== Discussion ===
    123 10min
    124 Cong Wang;  Hussam Nasir;  Aaron Helsinger;  Jeanne Ohren [[BR]]
     11715min
     118Cong Wang;  Hussam Nasir;  Marshall Brinn;  Jeanne Ohren [[BR]]
     119
     120How do we move towards a common approach to configure and initialize I&M tools, to better unify experiment environment?
     121
     122Consider:  move towards script, driven by rspec ext;  or is there a better solution?
     123
    125124
    126125[Any topics, suggestions and issues suggested AHEAD OF TIME by members of roundtable]
    127126
    128 [At the end:  any conclusions, list of issues, team to continue discussion]
     127At the end: 
     128 * List of conclusions
     129 * List of issues
     130 * Team to continue discussion
    129131
    130132
    131133== 5) Options for further measurement data analysis and presentation ==
    132 9:40am
     1349:35am
    133135
    134 === Overview ===
     136=== Introduction ===
    135137Harry Mussman   [[BR]]
    136 2min
    137138
    138 Step 6:  Analyze
     139
     140GENI experiment management Step 6:  Analyze
    139141 * Now:  Both GEMINI and GIMI push measurement data objects (files) to GENI Storage Service (iRODS)
    140142 * Now:  GEMINI provides dump of mongo DB, plus separate file of metadata
    141143 * Now:  GIMI (will) provide SQLdump of PostgreSQL DB, which includes metadata
    142 
    143144 * Now:  Both use portal on GENI Storage Service (iRODS) to curate files (objects)
    144145
    145 Both:  Pull measurement data files from GENI Storage Service (iRODS) back to user workspace, where DBs can be reconstituted, and data pulled for further analysis and presentation.
     146Both:  Pull measurement data files from GENI Storage Service (iRODS) back to user workspace, where DBs can be reconstituted, and data pulled for further analysis and presentation.  [[BR]]
    146147
    147 Both:  Many options for further analysis and presentation, not being developed as part of tools.
     148Both:  Many options for further analysis and presentation, not being developed as part of tools.  [[BR]]
    148149
    149 Next:  Consider possible ways to unify data formats, analysis and presentation
     150Next:  Consider possible ways to unify data formats, analysis and presentation;  what commonly available tools might be useful?  [[BR]]
    150151
    151 Suggest:  Discuss what might be possible, and potential approaches at I&M session
     152
    152153
    153154=== Current GIMI measurement data object schema ===
    154 (Christoph Dwertmann)  [[BR]]
     155Charles Glass  [[BR]]
    15515610min
    156157
     
    160161
    161162=== Discussion ===
    162 (Christoph Dwertmann);  Ezra Kissel;  Marshall Brinn;  Fraida Fund    [[BR]]
     163Charles Glass;  Ezra Kissel;  Marshall Brinn;  Fraida Fund    [[BR]]
    16316410min
     165
     166What are possible ways to unify data formats? [[BR]]
     167
     168How could we unify further analysis and presentation? [[BR]]
     169
     170What commonly available tools might be useful?  [[BR]]
     171
    164172
    165173[Any topics, suggestions and issues suggested AHEAD OF TIME by members of roundtable]
    166174
    167 [At the end:  any conclusions, list of issues, team to continue discussion]
     175At the end: 
     176 * List of conclusions
     177 * List of issues
     178 * Team to continue discussion
    168179
    169180