Changes between Version 31 and Version 32 of ClusterDMtg070209


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07/28/09 17:43:27 (10 years ago)
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    3131        Franz Fidler    phone
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    33 [http://groups.geni.net/geni/attachment/wiki/ClusterDMtg070209/cluster-D-review-notes-2July09.txt Notes from meeting][[BR]]
     33[http://groups.geni.net/geni/attachment/wiki/ClusterDMtg070209/cluster-D-review-notes-2July09.txt Notes from meeting], with some merged in below. [[BR]]
    3434
    3535Agenda:
     
    9999  very interested in such a tutorial. 
    100100
    101   Concern about maintaining documents after publishing.  This is made
     101- Concern about maintaining documents after publishing.  This is made
    102102  more difficult since the prototypes are rapidly evolving.
    103103
    104   Concern that supporting users will delay system development because
     104- Concern that supporting users will delay system development because
    105105  of the need to have a stable system.  GPO thinks projects have
    106106  latitude to define the level of stability and support that makes
     
    108108  phase, likely that composition and design will change over time.
    109109
    110   Anish: We've found that tutorials are good as a way to train PIs
     110- Anish: We've found that tutorials are good as a way to train PIs
    111111  grad students and colleagues.  There's a real cost to keeping it up
    112112  but it is in general a good idea.  What events would be a good fit?
    113113  Having a pull from users helps a lot. 
    114114
    115   Chip: one approach is that folks want to use a remote system
     115- Chip: one approach is that folks want to use a remote system
    116116  initially then make their own local copy.  Anish: yes, that's our
    117117  experience but doing 'cross-experiments' has been quite hard.  Not
    118118  clear what the benefit is to other users.
    119119
    120   What are the GPO's incentives to get people to do experiments?  Not
     120- What are the GPO's incentives to get people to do experiments?  Not
    121121  much.  The GPO doesn't sponsor research.  This is what NSF does.
    122122  The GPO sponsor trial experiments to help shake down the system.
     
    124124        11:30           ViSE project [http://groups.geni.net/geni/wiki/ViSE  wiki][http://groups.geni.net/geni/attachment/wiki/ClusterDMtg070209/vise.pptx  slides] (Prashant Shenoy, Michael Zink, David Irwin)
    125125
    126 Plans: Experiment Examples
     126- Plans: Experiment Examples
    127127
    128128- Sensor-centric experiments.  E.g., comparing fidelity from Furuno, Raymarine, MA1 (students from Peurto Rico) to focus on ground truth verification and long-term data collection with the UMass trace repository.  Peurto Rico very interested in low-infrastructure radars due to its geography.  Have a PhD student going back to PR, might be a good GEC grant candidate.  Virtualization of these systems might be of great interest to engineering communities, not just networking.  PR is developing a student testbed with tight collaboration with UMass.
     
    136136        1:00            Kansei project  [http://groups.geni.net/geni/wiki/KanseiSensorNet  ] [http://groups.geni.net/geni/attachment/wiki/ClusterDMtg070209/KanseiGenie-Spiral1Status-Spiral2Plans%280.3%29.pptx?format=raw  slides](Anish Aurora, Rajiv Ramnath, Hongwei Zhang)
    137137
    138 Challenges
     138- Challenges
    139139
    140140* NSF doesn't have a way to pay for operations costs. Might want to have a workshop or other organized forum educate CISE on operations costs.
     
    144144        1:30            Measurement project  [http://groups.geni.net/geni/wiki/Embedded%20Real-Time%20Measurements  wiki] [http://groups.geni.net/geni/attachment/wiki/ClusterDMtg070209/ClusterD_ERM_final.ppt  slides] (Keren Bergman, Franz Fidler)
    145145
    146 Discussion on monitoring
     146- Discussion on monitoring
    147147
    148148- Jeff: hyperic may be a good tool that uses ganglia to monitor VM
     
    151151  direction.
    152152
    153   Ilia: have looked at PCP for a monitoring system.  some concern that
     153- Ilia: have looked at PCP for a monitoring system.  some concern that
    154154  Hyperic may have an uncertain future as it was acquired last month.
    155155  have indicated to GMOC that there is a strong preference to
    156156  developing a SOAP interface
    157157
    158   Heidi: need to think about what data you want to expose and share
    159 
    160   Anish: Kansei has an interface for getting experiment and substrate
     158- Heidi: need to think about what data you want to expose and share
     159
     160- Anish: Kansei has an interface for getting experiment and substrate
    161161  status. 
    162162
     
    175175                        How close are we to consensus?
    176176
    177 Discussion of Spiral 2 Capabilities  (see Harry's notes)
     177- Discussion of Spiral 2 Capabilities  (see Harry's notes)
    178178
    179179- Chip: central goal of Spiral 2 is live experimentation; won't be
     
    199199- Improved integration. 
    200200
    201   Need to improve distribution of keys to containers.  Currently
     201- Need to improve distribution of keys to containers.  Currently
    202202  manual, ugly, error prone, requires documentation but will work
    203203  until container reaches 10's.  Currently no privacy.  Could be added
     
    206206- Measurements
    207207
    208   DOME collects location information on buses but needs a solution on
     208- DOME collects location information on buses but needs a solution on
    209209  providing it to GENI users.  Has also been thinking about
    210210  longitudinal studies, Brian will send Chip a copy of a paper.
    211211
    212   ERTM will prototype hardware, interface it with BEN, integrate with
     212- ERTM will prototype hardware, interface it with BEN, integrate with
    213213  ORCA.
    214214
     
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    220 
     220Submitted by:
    221221
    222222Harry E. Mussman