Changes between Version 31 and Version 32 of ClusterDMtg070209
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v31 v32 31 31 Franz Fidler phone 32 32 33 [http://groups.geni.net/geni/attachment/wiki/ClusterDMtg070209/cluster-D-review-notes-2July09.txt Notes from meeting] [[BR]]33 [http://groups.geni.net/geni/attachment/wiki/ClusterDMtg070209/cluster-D-review-notes-2July09.txt Notes from meeting], with some merged in below. [[BR]] 34 34 35 35 Agenda: … … 99 99 very interested in such a tutorial. 100 100 101 101 - Concern about maintaining documents after publishing. This is made 102 102 more difficult since the prototypes are rapidly evolving. 103 103 104 104 - Concern that supporting users will delay system development because 105 105 of the need to have a stable system. GPO thinks projects have 106 106 latitude to define the level of stability and support that makes … … 108 108 phase, likely that composition and design will change over time. 109 109 110 110 - Anish: We've found that tutorials are good as a way to train PIs 111 111 grad students and colleagues. There's a real cost to keeping it up 112 112 but it is in general a good idea. What events would be a good fit? 113 113 Having a pull from users helps a lot. 114 114 115 115 - Chip: one approach is that folks want to use a remote system 116 116 initially then make their own local copy. Anish: yes, that's our 117 117 experience but doing 'cross-experiments' has been quite hard. Not 118 118 clear what the benefit is to other users. 119 119 120 120 - What are the GPO's incentives to get people to do experiments? Not 121 121 much. The GPO doesn't sponsor research. This is what NSF does. 122 122 The GPO sponsor trial experiments to help shake down the system. … … 124 124 11:30 ViSE project [http://groups.geni.net/geni/wiki/ViSE wiki][http://groups.geni.net/geni/attachment/wiki/ClusterDMtg070209/vise.pptx slides] (Prashant Shenoy, Michael Zink, David Irwin) 125 125 126 Plans: Experiment Examples126 - Plans: Experiment Examples 127 127 128 128 - Sensor-centric experiments. E.g., comparing fidelity from Furuno, Raymarine, MA1 (students from Peurto Rico) to focus on ground truth verification and long-term data collection with the UMass trace repository. Peurto Rico very interested in low-infrastructure radars due to its geography. Have a PhD student going back to PR, might be a good GEC grant candidate. Virtualization of these systems might be of great interest to engineering communities, not just networking. PR is developing a student testbed with tight collaboration with UMass. … … 136 136 1:00 Kansei project [http://groups.geni.net/geni/wiki/KanseiSensorNet ] [http://groups.geni.net/geni/attachment/wiki/ClusterDMtg070209/KanseiGenie-Spiral1Status-Spiral2Plans%280.3%29.pptx?format=raw slides](Anish Aurora, Rajiv Ramnath, Hongwei Zhang) 137 137 138 Challenges138 - Challenges 139 139 140 140 * NSF doesn't have a way to pay for operations costs. Might want to have a workshop or other organized forum educate CISE on operations costs. … … 144 144 1:30 Measurement project [http://groups.geni.net/geni/wiki/Embedded%20Real-Time%20Measurements wiki] [http://groups.geni.net/geni/attachment/wiki/ClusterDMtg070209/ClusterD_ERM_final.ppt slides] (Keren Bergman, Franz Fidler) 145 145 146 Discussion on monitoring146 - Discussion on monitoring 147 147 148 148 - Jeff: hyperic may be a good tool that uses ganglia to monitor VM … … 151 151 direction. 152 152 153 153 - Ilia: have looked at PCP for a monitoring system. some concern that 154 154 Hyperic may have an uncertain future as it was acquired last month. 155 155 have indicated to GMOC that there is a strong preference to 156 156 developing a SOAP interface 157 157 158 159 160 158 - Heidi: need to think about what data you want to expose and share 159 160 - Anish: Kansei has an interface for getting experiment and substrate 161 161 status. 162 162 … … 175 175 How close are we to consensus? 176 176 177 Discussion of Spiral 2 Capabilities (see Harry's notes)177 - Discussion of Spiral 2 Capabilities (see Harry's notes) 178 178 179 179 - Chip: central goal of Spiral 2 is live experimentation; won't be … … 199 199 - Improved integration. 200 200 201 201 - Need to improve distribution of keys to containers. Currently 202 202 manual, ugly, error prone, requires documentation but will work 203 203 until container reaches 10's. Currently no privacy. Could be added … … 206 206 - Measurements 207 207 208 208 - DOME collects location information on buses but needs a solution on 209 209 providing it to GENI users. Has also been thinking about 210 210 longitudinal studies, Brian will send Chip a copy of a paper. 211 211 212 212 - ERTM will prototype hardware, interface it with BEN, integrate with 213 213 ORCA. 214 214 … … 218 218 219 219 220 220 Submitted by: 221 221 222 222 Harry E. Mussman