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    414414their ears" for this kind of thing.
    415415
    416 Jason said what about MRI funding?  Can only submit 3 proposals per
     416Justin said what about MRI funding?  Can only submit 3 proposals per
    417417campus.
    418418
     
    499499donate more, you get more allocated to you.  (Basically VMs).
    500500
    501 Collaborated:  PLab, PgENI, ProtoGENI, DOR
     501Collaborated:  PLab, GpENI, ProtoGENI, DOR
    502502
    503503Publications at SIGCSE, PN-ASEE/WCERT, NW-DCSD workshops, 12 talks
     
    520520bandwidth, hardware random number generator...15-20 resources are
    521521restricted by Million Node GENI VM now.  Million Node GENI measures based on Justin's Mac laptop
    522 to decide how much to limit resources.
     522to decide how much to limit resources.   This will change in the near future.
    523523
    524524Expected security model for Million Node GENI is to restrict traffic to within the
     
    528528
    529529Testbed this year went up over 1000 nodes. This counts anything that's
    530 ever been up.
    531 
    532 Had to adapt to firewalls.  Not looking for more end users.
    533 
    534 Time goes backwards on modern machines frequently
     530ever been up.   
     531
     532Had to adapt to firewalls.  They are looking for more end users but want to
     533grow slowly.
     534
     535There are lots of odd complications that make accounting and portability a challenge.   Time goes backwards on modern machines frequently.   The count of consumed resources (getrusage) goes backwards sometimes too!
    535536
    536537ProtoGENI clearinghouse integration.  Demo version will run at GEC5.
     
    540541
    541542Have been discussing whether it makes sense for Million Node GENI to
    542 use ProtoGENI control framework.  Million Node GENI belives there is a
     543use ProtoGENI control framework.  Million Node GENI believes there is a
    543544problem with that.  Million Node GENI doesn't have a notion of a lot
    544545of things that are calls in ProtoGENI (for example booting a node).
     
    556557purpose Million Node GENI node.
    557558
    558 Rob said he'd like to be able to have the notiion of a slice in
    559 Million Node GENI.  Justin said you can (but it souds like there are
    560 complications with this).
     559Rob said he'd like to be able to have the notion of a slice in
     560Million Node GENI.  Justin said it would be possible to add this, but
     561it's not currently implemented because it was unneeded.
    561562
    562563Chip asked about whether it runs on handsets.  Justin said they've
    563 done proof of concept on Nokia 0800, jailbroken Iphones, One laptop
    564 per child notebook.  Couldn't do Windows mobile despite significant
    565 effort.
     564done very early stage proof-of-concept on Nokia N800, jailbroken Iphones, One laptop
     565per child notebook.   However, none of these were brought to maturity so they may be intractable due to inability to get resource information from the kernel.  They stopped working on Windows mobile after the effort was taking too much time.
    566566
    567567Chip asked about privacy concerns, especially with handsets and
    568 location information.  Can route traffic through TOR and have this
     568location information.  It would be possible route traffic through TOR and have this
    569569information be hidden.  If the information isn't hidden, experiments
    570570can take advantage of the location information.  This is a different
    571571model than the cloud projects because the node will be ON your own
    572 network.
     572network.   
    573573
    574574Million Node GENI will work on adding some UW nodes to GENI via I2.
     
    577577infrastructure.
    578578
    579 Currently used in 6 classes.  Suport from NW-DCSD.  Want more adoption
     579Currently used in 6 classes.  Support from NW-DCSD.  Want more adoption
    580580this fall.  Easier for students to do experiments in this environment
    581581than in others.
     
    590590   * Prototype end-host Clearinghouse
    591591    * mash ups
    592     * identiy management
     592    * identity management
    593593 * Collaborate with O&M and security
    594594 * GENI outreach
     
    602602definitions of that.
    603603
    604 Aaron pointed out that GENI reallly needs to be able to glue slices
     604Aaron pointed out that GENI really needs to be able to glue slices
    605605into parts of Million Node GENI to make it useful---can't just
    606606
     
    611611HPD asked if GpENI install of Million Node GENI used anything but just
    612612access the GpENI Plab node.  No.  But it was a good node to add
    613 because it has ssh access, which most nodes don't.
     613because it has ssh access, which most nodes don't.   Lessons learned here were mostly helpful from an opt-in policy standpoint.
    614614
    615615=== Milestones ===