Changes between Version 32 and Version 33 of ClusterDMtg070209

Timestamp:

07/28/09 17:49:25 (15 years ago)

Author:

hmussman@bbn.com

Comment:

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ClusterDMtg070209

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 Plans for Spiral 2
 
-- Goal is to deploy on buses this summer.  5-6 out of 40 buses in field per
-  day.
+- Goal is to deploy on buses this summer.  5-6 out of 40 buses in field per day.
 
-- Will bring on undergrad projects in the fall from "Intro to
-  Networking" class.  Imagine only 1 or 2 projects will get far enough
-  to use the real system.  Have a PhD graduating this year heading to
-  Arkansas who is expected do experiments.
+- Will bring on undergrad projects in the fall from "Intro to Networking" class.  Imagine only 1 or 2 projects will get far enough to use the real system.  Have a PhD graduating this year heading to  Arkansas who is expected do experiments.
 
 - Plan to allow experimenters to access XTend radios
@@ -96 +92 @@
 - Want 'true and open access to testbed by experimenters'
 
-- Tutorials on how to use?  May require some separate funding.  Keren
-  very interested in such a tutorial.  
+- Tutorials on how to use?  May require some separate funding.  Keren very interested in such a tutorial.  
 
-- Concern about maintaining documents after publishing.  This is made
-  more difficult since the prototypes are rapidly evolving.
+- Concern about maintaining documents after publishing.  This is made more difficult since the prototypes are rapidly evolving.
 
-- Concern that supporting users will delay system development because
-  of the need to have a stable system.  GPO thinks projects have
-  latitude to define the level of stability and support that makes
-  sense for them.  Currently, GENI is in the 'exploratory prototyping'
-  phase, likely that composition and design will change over time.
+- Concern that supporting users will delay system development because of the need to have a stable system.  GPO thinks projects have latitude to define the level of stability and support that makes sense for them.  Currently, GENI is in the 'exploratory prototyping' phase, likely that composition and design will change over time.
 
-- Anish: We've found that tutorials are good as a way to train PIs
-  grad students and colleagues.  There's a real cost to keeping it up
-  but it is in general a good idea.  What events would be a good fit?
-  Having a pull from users helps a lot.  
+- Anish: We've found that tutorials are good as a way to train PIs grad students and colleagues.  There's a real cost to keeping it up  but it is in general a good idea.  What events would be a good fit?  Having a pull from users helps a lot.  
 
-- Chip: one approach is that folks want to use a remote system
-  initially then make their own local copy.  Anish: yes, that's our
-  experience but doing 'cross-experiments' has been quite hard.  Not
-  clear what the benefit is to other users.
+- Chip: one approach is that folks want to use a remote system initially then make their own local copy.  Anish: yes, that's our experience but doing 'cross-experiments' has been quite hard.  Not  clear what the benefit is to other users.
 
-- What are the GPO's incentives to get people to do experiments?  Not
-  much.  The GPO doesn't sponsor research.  This is what NSF does.
-  The GPO sponsor trial experiments to help shake down the system.
+- What are the GPO's incentives to get people to do experiments?  Not much.  The GPO doesn't sponsor research.  This is what NSF does. The GPO sponsor trial experiments to help shake down the system.
 
         11:30           ViSE project [http://groups.geni.net/geni/wiki/ViSE  wiki][http://groups.geni.net/geni/attachment/wiki/ClusterDMtg070209/vise.pptx  slides] (Prashant Shenoy, Michael Zink, David Irwin)
@@ -146 +128 @@
 - Discussion on monitoring
 
-- Jeff: hyperic may be a good tool that uses ganglia to monitor VM
-  status, can be extended to other things than VM; have a student
-  working on this; looking for input as to whether this is a good
-  direction.
+- Jeff: hyperic may be a good tool that uses ganglia to monitor VM status, can be extended to other things than VM; have a student working on this; looking for input as to whether this is a good direction.
 
-- Ilia: have looked at PCP for a monitoring system.  some concern that
-  Hyperic may have an uncertain future as it was acquired last month.
-  have indicated to GMOC that there is a strong preference to
-  developing a SOAP interface
+- Ilia: have looked at PCP for a monitoring system.  some concern that Hyperic may have an uncertain future as it was acquired last month.  Have indicated to GMOC that there is a strong preference to  developing a SOAP interface
 
 - Heidi: need to think about what data you want to expose and share
@@ -177 +153 @@
 - Discussion of Spiral 2 Capabilities  (see Harry's notes)
 
-- Chip: central goal of Spiral 2 is live experimentation; won't be
-  easy; everything else is secondary
+- Chip: central goal of Spiral 2 is live experimentation; won't be easy; everything else is secondary
 
-- Experiments: Want to see experiments of end-to-end systems, e.g.,
-  matching networks with servers, sensors with clouds, content with
-  buses, radars & buses
+- Experiments: Want to see experiments of end-to-end systems, e.g., matching networks with servers, sensors with clouds, content with  buses, radars & buses
 
-- Identity management: DOME plans to plug into some foreign
-  authentication manager.  GPO plans to try to go to Shib & InCommon,
-  since it looks like it might take hold broadly.  Rough mental model
-  is that in the early days, almost anybody can use this.  Need ways
-  to say 'these people are out' but probably don't need elaborate
-  policies early on.  GPO is interested in knowing whether folks
-  believe moving to Shibboleth is a bad idea.  Shib has been most
-  successful for managing user access to a portal, seems good for GENI
-  as far as that goes and that's what ORCA uses it for.  What that
-  user is allowed to do is another issue and not currently handled by
-  Shib attributes.  Shib is only starting to handle delegated
-  authority, still early days.
+- Identity management: DOME plans to plug into some foreign authentication manager.  GPO plans to try to go to Shib & InCommon,  since it looks like it might take hold broadly.  Rough mental model
+  is that in the early days, almost anybody can use this.  Need ways  to say 'these people are out' but probably don't need elaborate policies early on.  GPO is interested in knowing whether folks  believe moving to Shibboleth is a bad idea.  Shib has been most  successful for managing user access to a portal, seems good for GENI  as far as that goes and that's what ORCA uses it for.  What that  user is allowed to do is another issue and not currently handled by Shib attributes.  Shib is only starting to handle delegated  authority, still early days.
 
 - Improved integration.  
 
-- Need to improve distribution of keys to containers.  Currently
-  manual, ugly, error prone, requires documentation but will work
-  until container reaches 10's.  Currently no privacy.  Could be added
-  by using HTTPS on transport.
+- Need to improve distribution of keys to containers.  Currently manual, ugly, error prone, requires documentation but will work until container reaches 10's.  Currently no privacy.  Could be added by using HTTPS on transport.
 
 - Measurements
 
-- DOME collects location information on buses but needs a solution on
-  providing it to GENI users.  Has also been thinking about
-  longitudinal studies, Brian will send Chip a copy of a paper.
+- DOME collects location information on buses but needs a solution on  providing it to GENI users.  Has also been thinking about  longitudinal studies, Brian will send Chip a copy of a paper.
 
-- ERTM will prototype hardware, interface it with BEN, integrate with
-  ORCA. 
+- ERTM will prototype hardware, interface it with BEN, integrate with  ORCA. 
 
 - Interoperability.  Want to avoid CF balkanization.